WEEEEEE need your help. You can easily lookup any district by putting in your zip code to see who all is running for what. Users Online Now: 1,919 : Visitors Today: 534,999: Pageviews Today: 2,043,519: Threads Today: 842: Posts Today: 18,151: 10:19 PM : . Or, more accurately, the people hoarding all the resources would have you believe it will go downhill. as for minimum wage, i actually sort of like that since we are the ones paying for their salaries. It's a lot harder to refuse thousands of dollars in bribe money when you're living a tiny apartment vs living in a mansion. Most people will never see this kind of money over their entire lifetimes. Being a politician is a tough job that is why it also has a high level of security to ensure their safety well. About four-in-ten (38%) say they oppose the proposal, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted April 5-11. However, if youre a mayor earning the national average salary, youll make around $56,000 each year. Among those who opposeraising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, a substantial majority (71%) say the federal minimum wage should be increased, but that the standard should be less than $15 an hour; those who hold this view account for 27% of the overall public. In addition, they continue to receive the same pay even after they are out of office as part of their retirement plan. I think its time that OUR ELECTED are paid what they think its ok to pay us. They should receive no more than an average American gets. Still, a majority of lower-income Republicans (54%) say they oppose such an increase. No because then they will take even more bribes. but we would need to first get them in office, which no smart person will do. A minimum wage of $4.25 per hour applies to young workers under the age of 20 during their first 90 consecutive calendar days of employment with an employer, as long as their work does not displace other workers. Chris Christie on the proposed now passed New Jersey minimum wage increase on June 8, The difference between the very wealthy and the working poor has grown. It remains skewed in the same way today even if arguably not to the same extent and certainly not so brazenly. Unfortunately, not enough people grow up in shit conditions in order to make up a government. I'd like to see the data that supports your statement that politicians are smarter than janitors and wal-mart cashiers - what is your baseline? We welcome anyone and everyone to register & become a member of our awesome community. They should be paid the median american salary. Forever insurance, forever paychecks, forever retirement, "gifts", etc. To learn more about the CreateDebate scoring system, check out the, When you are ready to voice your opinion, use the. What argument are you trying to support, defend, or dispute with this question? The pay of state legislators varies depending on whether they work for full-time or part-time legislatures. Thinker. We would only get people who actually want to better this country, not money grubbing turds. But since you like studies so much and not a debate on subjective shit, here's a study showing how people are more likely to donate their organs if they are offered money. What are the common problems or advantages with paying politicians for their work/time? With less monetary incentives, more sincere people will be drawn to politics. It conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis and other empirical social science research. CreateDebate is a social debate community built around ideas, discussion and democracy. About seven-in-ten adults in these places (69%) favor raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, compared with 59% of those living in places with a minimum wage of less than $12 an hour. It would weed out the crooked ones that are only in politics for the money (which is gotten ridiculously extreme), and the ones left would be the ones there to make a difference. I would suggest, however, that this and other instances of entrenched social inequity will not be more effectively or more speedily corrected by making our democracy work even less well than it does. Jerry Brown in a signing statement for a bill to increase Californias minimum wage to $10 an hour, on Sept. 11, The real winner here is the economy. The problem would be situations like Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who bought land, lobbied to build a highway near it, then sold it for three times what he bought it for when the highway bill went through. Lots of politicians already have money from their previous jobs as lawyers or private businessmen. Sure. In the United States of America a job must lift workers out of poverty, not keep them in it. (+1) 202-419-4372 | Media Inquiries. Partly because they get support from political parties yet another aspect of our democracy which depends for its proper functioning on the highest achievable levels of participation. Change). Different jobs can be equally important for very different reasons. This just shows how, yes, people do good things all the time without lots of pay or gifts but even MORE people do good things if offered pay or gifts. They have a special role to make our society a better place to live in. Force them to live off minimum wage and watch how many of the scum leave. I always thought it should be a percentage of the average wage in the area they represent. Why did a salary hike have the opposite effect intended? Everyone who took part in this survey is a member of the Centers American Trends Panel (ATP), an online survey panel that is recruited through national, random sampling of residential addresses. Parish hires consultant to study pay plan, Jefferson councilman: Its shameful parish department doesnt recommend increasing parish workers minimum wage, The New Orleans City Council ratifies $15 hourly minimum wage for city workers, 'Living wage' rate for city contractors backed by New Orleans City Council; see pay changes. Among the public, those who back a $15 minimum wage are fairly divided over how to approach the issue if there is insufficient support in Congress for an increase to that amount this year. I think this would be a good way to make sure that people get into politics to make things change for the better. If a politician is given too much authority, they may abuse it. More than half of Americans who favor a $15 federal minimum wage (54%) say that if there is not enough congressional support for such an increase this year, Congress should prioritize increasing the wage even if the new wage is significantly less than $15. To understand this debate it is useful to learn the following words and concepts. Well, its a good thing nothing Ive listed above would affect their ability to help people. I don't think politicians should be paid minimum wage necessarily, but rather an average of what their constituents earn. Any article on this website may be republished in whole or part on condition only that Peter A Bell is acknowledged as the author and/or the source is identified as www.peterabell.scot.If you would like to make a donation to help with the running costs of this site, please click here. Among higher-income adults who support a $15 minimum wage, majorities say the priority for Congress should be to work to increase the minimum wage, even if the new wage is significantly less than $15 an hour. A growing number of major cities and states have set their own wage floors at $15. Find out with our income calculator, Indias Sex Ratio at Birth Begins To Normalize. The president is in command of the military and has the power to reject or approve the legislation. About Pew Research Center Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. Reader. Lower-income adults who favor a $15 minimum wage are divided on the better approach if there is inadequate support in Congress for the proposal this year: 49% say congressional leaders should prioritize any raise to the minimum that can happen this year, while an identical 49% share say leaders should continue working until they pass legislation raising the wage to $15 an hour. The point is to pay them enough so that they don't take bribes. Force them to work for minimum wage and you'll see that they just become more likely to accept bribes. Let's raise the minimum wage to a living wage! Exactly. Watch how fast everything changes when politicians realize what life on minimum wage really is like. Talker. Tommy may have a point in relation to some of this. Since the early 1990s the salaries of Australian parliamentarians have generally risen in a similar . Even to a dedicated public servant, lavish gifts from lobbyists will be a whole lot more persuasive when they are eating ramen noodles every night in the two bedroom apartment they share with four other people. A Tory candidate has been filmed telling a hustings event that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than minimum wage as 'they don't understand money'. Surely we want that process to continue. That is an interesting idea. The combination of mint with ANYTHING food related Just because I paid my bill doesnt mean you stop waiting Websites should be required to have an easily accessible People who tell others how to enjoy their steak should Press J to jump to the feed. The problem is you cant do that by mandating it in the minimum wage laws. Their inspirational courage to speak out for themselves, their families and for the growing share of Americas workforce whose pay is too low has captured Americas attention. 53 members of Congress wrote to several restaurant executives, including McDonalds Chief Executive Officer Don Thompson, on Dec. 4, When you raise the price of employment, guess what happens? They represent 1.9% of the 82.3 million . Pay them with food and water and a cot in a FEMA trailer. The mayor has veto (can overrule other votes) authority over the council, which has legislative power. Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Harriet Tubman, the suffragettes; I would argue that Martin Luther King wasn't after a pay check - you can look to history to discover a diverse population of human beings that have shown us the way to accomplish change, social justice, and equality. It would be cool if societies were willing to do something as drastic as this. Like Jefferson, the city has faced an exodus of municipal workers and a slow down in hiring due to the economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic. the only problem is that no smart person would work for minimum wage i mean, what dumbass voluntarily does that? Now its time for the nearly 3.5 million workers in California and 30 million workers nationwide who work in low-wage jobs to get a raise. Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) in a local op-ed on April 6, Raising minimum wage doesnt just benefit the workers behind me, it creates a proven ripple effect that increases wages all the way up the scale. It last overhauled its pay plan in 2019. People can freely express their opinions to the government and influence politics through public protests, signing petitions, lobbying, writing letters, or attending meetings. so i guess we should pay doctors only minimum wage because we want the doctors who want to do it PURELY for the fun amrite? People with severe allergies shouldnt eat out, Vacations where you do things aren't enjoyable. Everything sucks but she still takes the job because she loves to teach children. Many politicians are already wealthy from careers as lawyers or lesser politicians. If you wish to become a politician then you should be in there for the correct reason if this means that you have low pay then so be it. Ours is a representative democracy. Those elected before 2004 receive an annual pension of between $150,000 and $200,000 a year. Absolutely. These issues can be a life and death situation, and even your health will be at stake because of too much stress. Our ELECTED need to see what we think of them collectively. Create an account or login to post a reply, You must be a member in order to post a reply. They grew up in shit conditions. Should people be allowed to become millionaires? But the increase didnt similarly influence the reelection decisions of higher-quality MEPs, who had better job prospects outside of politics. Doing so would generate increased competition between candidates, attract better applicants, and secure better politicians. The healthcare sucks. Epic solution to corruption. They are after all are supposed to be public servants. But I have serious concerns about the dangers in undermining the general principle of paying elected representatives well while insisting that they earn their salary by doing the job to the best of their ability. The parish would need to spend another $8.4 million to address the resulting wage compression among workers already making more than $15 per hour, The Archer Group estimated. If the intern spends all their time fetching coffee or sweeping, how much can they really be learning? Evidently that premise has failed. And even so, most of them are zealots, not change makers. (Staff Photo by David Grunfeld, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune | The New Orleans Advocate). Read more about the ATPs methodology. The researchers consider the effects of a salary increase on some members of the European Parliament (MEPs). A pay raise may also be the reason for back pay. Do they deserve that amount? AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and National Employment Law Project Director Christine Owens in a joint op-ed on Dec. 3, I do think we need to increase the minimum wage. The parish would need to spend another $8.4 million to address the resulting wage compression among workers already making more than $15 per hour, The Archer Group estimated. would be able to run, You obviously dont know anything about what politicians actually do lol. So why do we need to pay them if they can get these incentives and benefits? It was one of the toughest jobs Ive ever had. Smaller majorities of those in middle- (58%) and upper-income households (55%) say they favor a $15 minimum wage. The public picks up that tab for the pampered and spoiled MPs along with their second home scam. Imagine if that process of making politics more accessible had started a hundred years earlier. I worked at McDonalds. Try again. Minimum wage may increase again past $13 in February. All we have is the IQ test, which kind of sucks. If you are ok with minimum wage caliber of candidates, ten sure, pay minimum wage. Reader. Could there be an alternative system of reward or payment for their services? In June, the parish hired The Archer Company,a South Carolina-based human resources consulting firm, to conduct a top-to-bottom review of its pay plan and determine the feasibility of raising its hourly minimum wage. If as a juror, if you were found to be financially invested in the outcome of a trial, you would be kicked off the jury. This way nearly all U.S. adults have a chance of selection. Politicians will raise the minimum wage to whatever they are comfortable being paid, how many people would lose their jobs if minimum wage was raised to $50/hr. then only people passionate about guiding a country would be involved with politics Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75758325 They could find a similar level of power and control elsewhere while having more money. And the evidence is overwhelmingly positive: Hiking the minimum wage has little or no adverse effect on employment while significantly increasing workers earnings. Paul Krugman in The New York Times on Dec. 2, We are proud to stand with the workers who continue to fight for an economy that works for everyone. You get less of it. No opinion humble. Should Jefferson Parish follow suit? It is not necessary to portray others as undeserving in order to enhance that case. The presidency is the highest elected position. The University of Chicago Booth School of Business, If You Want Better Politicians, Pay Them Less. If the only reason some are there is for the money (which that is the case for many) then making them work for minimum wage will make them want to change careers opening a spot for someone who will do the job for the greater good. Lets implement these changes and see how many of them stick around. Your argument does not explain the fact that the great change makers in history worked for humanity, not a paycheck. All that they need to be paid is parliamentary allowance to help them with their work instead of raking hundreds of our dollars. Politicians are human too. Do we need ambitious representatives? It is a commitment. This might be the actual dumbest post I've ever seen on here lol. Sign and share if you believe that our elected should be paid what they think its ok to pay us. But politiciansnot market forcesare responsible for setting their own salary levels, one reason why the political labor market veers toward irrationality. A $10-hour minimum wage boosts. Half of Hispanic adults who back the $15 wage also express this view. White adults, by contrast, are divided: 51% favor raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour including just 30% who strongly favor it while 48% oppose it. And since politicians are generally made out to be selfish and all that (who knows if it's true for all of 'em? If such idea existed, working at McDonalds would be the best job in the U.S. Politics, whatever you think of it, requires a certain mindset and a certain set of skills that most likely don't exist in minimum wage workers. My mum teaches little kids and let me tell you what you already knowthe pay sucks. A majority of Black adults who favor a $15 standard (55%) say that if there is not sufficient support in Congress for that to pass, congressional leaders should continue to work for a $15 minimum wage even if no minimum wage increase becomes law this year. Heres what some of the biggest names in Washington are saying about the topic. To function well, democracy requires participation and therefore accessibility at all levels and in all its aspects. In fact, according to the law, 18 USC 3056 the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect: The president and the vice president and their families, cabinet officials, White House chief of staff, and National Security Adviser. Do it for minimum wage. They find that a salary increase led to politicians with less education. But even so, all of the people you've mentioned were victims of injustices. Accept Cookies. Leaving room for only rich people to become politicians. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. There was a problem saving your notification. If being a politician is not paid at all, we will prevent greedy and selfish politicians from entering politics who only want monetary incentives and do not care about their people. ESL Debates 2022 - All rights reserved. From April this year, the hourly rate for earners aged 21 to 2 is 9.18 an hour, up from 8.36. While Democrats are largely united in their support for increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, Republicans views differ by household income. They conclude that salary had an insignificant impact on both shirking and attendance. Everything you do, eyes are watching you. They do minimal work on purpose, they only ever fight for the people who pay them the most, they only do it for the paycheck and the pension, and they never feel any type of guilt about it. He is up for re election in 2020. If they were forced to work for minimum wage, then they would change things because they are used to living like kings and queens, literally. We all know that being a politician is a dangerous job. The Diplomatic Security Service (DSS) has a high-profile personal protection duty inside the State Department, which is highlighted whenever the Secretary of State goes abroad. 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